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Anders Hayden, author and university professor, speaks with Silver Donald Cameron in this exclusive Green Interview about the flaws inherent with our current measures of progress — the GDP. He explains, “There are actually ways in which the GDP could be going up in ways that are resulting in a net destruction of things that have real value, things that may not be counted by the GDP but can be fundamentally more important.” In this interview Hayden explores the other ways of measuring progress and how the realities of climate change is making that exploration more important than ever.